{"id":1254,"date":"2016-07-21T02:34:25","date_gmt":"2016-07-21T02:34:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ber10thal.com\/blog\/?p=1254"},"modified":"2017-11-28T04:20:41","modified_gmt":"2017-11-28T04:20:41","slug":"elgato-hd60-with-mac-os-and-twitch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/elgato-hd60-with-mac-os-and-twitch\/","title":{"rendered":"Elgato HD60 with Mac OS and Twitch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/hd60.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1255\" src=\"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/hd60-300x138.png\" alt=\"hd60\" width=\"300\" height=\"138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/hd60-300x138.png 300w, https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/hd60.png 649w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I chose the HD60 for a few reasons. \u00a0It got really good reviews, and I also asked streamers that had good quality streams what they used. What I didn&#8217;t realize is that <strong>support for the HD60 on Mac computers is limited<\/strong>. They don&#8217;t write the drivers for Mac so you can&#8217;t capture the stream directly for use with\u00a0OBS*. In most cases you will be relegated to using the Game Capture HD software with this device. This software works well but, it&#8217;s limited. Currently the stable version does not support overlays. The beta software does though, but it&#8217;s still limited. With the beta software you can set up a webcam and a few overlays on your stream. You cannot setup Twitch notifications, or any of the other cool integrations\u00a0you can have with OBS.<\/p>\n<p>*You can use OBS with this card, but you can&#8217;t capture directly from the device itself, \u00a0you have to use Window capture or Screen capture and both have issues. If you use window capture I found that it works but, the video in my Twitch stream was rickety. For example, if a character turns his head the movement wouldn&#8217;t be smooth. It&#8217;s hard to explain.. If you try to use display capture you&#8217;ll have to have a high resolution or a big screen so you can separate the OBS screen from the Game Capture Screen. This is because display capture captures everything in a certain area, if you have any overlap with OBS you get an infinity effect. This was too big of a problem for me to overcome. So, I&#8217;m left with only using the Elgato software.<\/p>\n<p>After the Mac updated to version 10.11.5 of El Capitan I&#8217;ve had issues with Game Capture HD. The stable version of the software has major video quality issues. I&#8217;ve tried the beta versions but they have issues too, which I&#8217;ll describe:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">gchdm_203_970 [stable version] \u00a0&#8212; Worked great before the 10.11.5 Mac update. Now it has video streaming issues, stream quality completely brakes down if there is any movement. If you played a game without much movement like a card game it might be okay. I play Splatoon and it&#8217;s completely unusable for that. \u00a0(Since the 10.11.5 update the video has been broken for streaming and recording, this version is no longer usable)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">gchdm_204_981\u00a0\u00a0[stable version] &#8212; This is the updated stable version I downloaded on August 11, 2016. It has the same issues as the previous stable version. It is unusable for streaming.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">gchdm_21b66_1036_PB \u00a0[beta version] &#8212; This fixed the video issue, but there is a recording issue, if I grab 2 mins of a 2hr stream, the 2min segment file size will be as big as the entire 2 hour stream. (<b>This is\u00a0<\/b>the version I use now, it&#8217;s the only one that streams\u00a0<b>video<\/b>\u00a0and\u00a0<b>audio<\/b>\u00a0correctly)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">gchdm_21b84_1084_PB \u00a0[beta version] &#8212; This may have fixed the recording size issue, the file size was 85mb for a 2 minute segment of a stream, so I&#8217;m not sure, but this introduces a microphone issue during streaming. The audio is robotic and broken up. (Unusable for streaming)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">gchdm_21b85_1101_PB \u00a0[beta version] &#8212; The microphone audio is still\u00a0an issue for\u00a0streaming. (Unusable for streaming)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>October 2017 update:<\/strong> 2.8(1315) Same voice audio issues. Voice audio breaks up. This article was published in August of 2016. It&#8217;s now October 12, 2017. <strong>Game capture HD still has the same exact issues it did a full\u00a0 year and 3 months ago.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I have been working with Elgato support from June 18th until today, July 20th) We haven&#8217;t really gotten anywhere, but\u00a0they are trying to help. <strong>Based on my testing, the issue is with their software, but Elgato support personnel continue to pin the issue to my computer.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Update: August 11, 2016. After I updated El Capitan to version 10.11.6 the video with all versions of the Game Capture HD breaks up and is unusable for streaming.<\/p>\n<p>I really wish Elgato would write a driver for Mac so that video could be captured\u00a0directly. I could use OBS with all of it&#8217;s features. So, based on all of this I would say if you have a Mac you may want to look for another streaming card, at least to stream on a service like Twitch. You may want to look into the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.avermedia.com\/gaming\/product\/game_capture\/live_gamer_portable_2\">AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2<\/a>. <del>They have Mac drivers and you can use it with OBS<\/del>. Update:\u00a0Apparently, they do not have Mac drivers. <strong>Update October 2017:<\/strong> Avermedia does have drivers for Mac now and OBS can be used. I&#8217;ve been using it with OBS for months now.<\/p>\n<p>I really liked the Elgato HD60. I call it a river rock because it looks and feels like one. My wife got it for me for my birthday.\u00a0I think the hardware is sound, and it&#8217;s well made. So far I&#8217;ve had a lot of fun streaming too. However the technical issues and limitations are\u00a0taking the fun out of it.<\/p>\n<p>Note: I am a\u00a0independent computer consultant. I support Windows, Mac and Linux. My experience range from hardware to software and networking.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I chose the HD60 for a few reasons. \u00a0It got really good reviews, and I also asked streamers that had good quality streams what they used. What I didn&#8217;t realize is that support for the HD60 on Mac computers is limited. They don&#8217;t write the drivers for Mac so you can&#8217;t capture the stream directly &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/elgato-hd60-with-mac-os-and-twitch\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Elgato HD60 with Mac OS and Twitch<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1254","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1254","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1254"}],"version-history":[{"count":25,"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1254\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1581,"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1254\/revisions\/1581"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1254"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1254"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ber10thal.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1254"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}